Chronicler: Marie Laca, Amelia Laca, and others

Interviewer: Gretchen Holbert

Date: 6/28/88

Location: possibly Winnemucca

Topic: Morning Star Hotel and Golconda Hot Springs

Indexed by: Lisa Corcostegui

 

Side A

 

starts at: 1:51

2:03 ††† Reno

2:08†††† MorningStar

2:15†††† High School in Golconda

219††††† two year High School

2:35†††† Eleanor Bane and speaker were first graduates

3:03†††† 1932

3:52†††† parents married in Reno

4:11†††† Dr. Hood; her mother worked for his family

4:17†††† Father owned the Morning Star

4:24†††† bought it sometime after 1899

4:42†††† sold the hotel to Rosindaís father

4:54†††† Rosinda thought the hotel was bought in the thirties; chroniclers disagree

5:02†††† hotel burned down

5:06†††† one of the chroniclers was born in 1909

5:09†††† Mrs. Etcheberry was her godmother; was still in Golconda in 1909; shortly after that they moved to Reno

5:26†††† father had the hotel when Johnny and Mary were born

5:46†††† hotel burned down around 1919

6:26†††† Rosindaís uncle Modesto Mayayo

6:30†††† Louis Archabal sold interest out to Modesto

6:52†††† 1912

7:12†††† John was oldest sibling

7:18†††† Mary is second child; lives in Lovelock

7:29†††† had their own home; didnít live in hotel

7:39†††† father had sheep, cattle, and was a buyer

8:01†††† Mirandabor (?) brothers

8:12†††† Basques were minority group

8:19†††† prejudice

8:26†††† sheepherders stayed at Basque hotels: Americans didnít go to Basque hotels

8:40†††† Basques treated as 2nd, 3rd, or 4th class citizens

9:04†††† Senator Pitman said theyíre nothing but sheep; ignorant sheepherders

9:27†††† hotels for sheepherders and immigrants

9:45†††† father met the Basques at the trains, took them to the hotel and helped them find a job

10:04†† sheepherders were loners

10:38†† Bush Hotel in Winnemucca on Railroad Street

10:51†† Ethel Hornbarger; Etchegoyen

11:24†† felt different growing up Basque

11:30†† Some Basques wouldnít admit they were Basques; speaker was proud to be Basque

11:36†† There was a Basque family that said they were Spanish

11:44†† there was no difference between Spanish Basque and French Basque

12:00†† parents spoke Basque to each other; one was French Basque and one Spanish Basque

12:16†† Marie picked up Spanish working in the bar

12:45†† didnít speak English when they went to school

13:30†† went to school with lots of Basques also Portuguese

13:55†† Bane

14:00†† Italians later in school, Indians, too.

14:18†† prominent black man in town was Dick Howard

15:02†† Chinese laundry

15:15†† one speakerís parents married in Elko, met while she was waiting tables

15:52†† no one intended to stay; wanted to make money and go back

16:20†† parents were in sheep business

16:27†† Arascada Hotel; more like a boarding house

17:11†† dances and parties were always at the Morning Star

17:15†† Hot Springs Hotel; they were not Basque, but French; Jackís fatherís uncle built that hotel. Lei (?) hotel

17:41†† there was a train that went from Winnemucca to Golconda for dinner and bathing

18:40†† Sara was motherís sister, mother was Gregoria

18:54†† Gartiz

19:18†† the family went to the dance

19:28†† there was a handball court in the back of the Morning Star; speakerís father built it

19:54†† parties, music dancing, benches lined the walls, got bread shipped from Winnemucca in baskets, kids would sleep there.

20:16†† learned to dance that way - jota and porrusalda

20:42†† father stayed in town part of the time, and at the ranch the other part, wagon and horses

20:49†† speakerís father had the first automobile in Golconda

21:18†† tramp sheep men

21:36†† food - blood sausage, soup, stew, macaroni.†

21:49†† Archabal family

21:55†† someone played the accordion for dancing

22:48†† ate dinner at home and then went to dance

23:02†† after Morning Star burned down they went to the hotel run by the Bane family; had player piano; Marie Archabal and Eleanor played piano and they had their little dances there. Mike played the violin, Rose played the piano.

23:25†† Lei Hotel with hot springs

23:56†† Frank and George Stall

24:12†† Jean Dutrech (?)

24:43†† by the time they were teenagers, everybody was integrated

24:53†† speaker came to Winnemucca after graduating high school; worked at Hotel Humboldt- waiteed tables and kept books, and Ruckís market.

25:16†† another speaker left Golconda and worked for a doctor and Avery Stitzer at newspaper.†

26:17†† all speakers were born at home with midwives.

26:24†† mother did a lot of doctoring, used plantaine poultice

26:46†† END SIDE A

 

SIDE B

0:00†††† Motherís memories of the Basque Country, hard life

0:25†††† church took advantage of the people, had bad feeling toward church.† If you had 3 pigs, 1 had to go to the churchÖ

1:00†††† baserri; one person stayed (primogeniture)

1:61†††† in speakerís family it was the youngest daughter

1:30†††† opportunity to make money in America

1:56†††† parents were rural people in the Basque Country

2:16†††† Urepel; grandfather was a miller

2:26†††† Berriatua

2:50†††† Paris family

3:10†††† mother was French Basque

3:17†††† Biarritz

3:34†††† Bizkaia

4:00†††† Aldude

4:21†††† Berriatua

4:27†††† Basque Country is heavenly; prettiest place

4:44†††† Millie can remember her mother crying, lonesome for home

5:15†††† Other speakerís mother didnít talk about the Basque Country

5:30†††† mother was tailor, learned at convent school, took care of altar in Golconda

5:45†††† trip over; her mother had a name tag with destination

6:02†††† somebody met them when they got here, as a rule

6:15†††† Ogden; Basque hotel

6:25†††† Uncle Mitchell

6:40†††† Mrs. Berreta (?)

6:49†††† 3 French girls

7:07†††† came to distrust the guy in Ogden

7:17†††† mother went from Urepel to Paris to work as maid.† From Paris to America

7:32†††† their fathers came over on a cattle boat.

7:54†††† one speakerís father came first to New Orleans

8:00†††† loved to dance; saved money to buy lessons from New York (Amelia)

8:21†††† New York is not a very nice city - didnít like man-holes

9:00†††† father worked for Miller and Lux (?).† Boss called him a son-of-a-bitch, so he left on his horse

9:40†††† people thought they were sheepherders in the Basque Country, but they werenít, herding was different there

9:58†††† sheep colored-coded, take them in the house at night in the Basque Country

10:28†† there are also professional shepherds in the Basque Country, no coyotes

10:56†† remembered her mother crying and missing her mother, felt terrible when her mother died and she had never seen her again

11:21†† lifestyle in the Basque Country, they thought they had a better deal here.

11:55†† stone hearth on floor and kettle was oven, no toilets, no running water; of course they were happy here

12.23†† they had the best houses in Golconda;† the Basque people were prosperous

12:29†† Basques are energetic; never did Basques go on welfare; never needed anything; worked hard

12:43†† Basques were good to each other

12:52†† Basques did well in Golconda

13:10†† mothers took day off on Sundays sometimes, church and visiting with families

13:37†† had coffee and bread and jelly; kids played, family played cards, briska

14:03 † played cards with grandma Archabal, men played mus

14:17†† played casino and pidro

14:29†† keinuak; played with beans, brown and white

14:47†† chores; milking cows, chopped wood, brought in coal - both boys and girls

15:01†† boys went out to work with dad

15:14†† Marie went to sheep camp for 3 months

15:15†† bed roll, slept on a tarp, cooked for 3 months, left baby Jane with mother

16:08†† had a tin stove at camp; rice, beans, meat potatoes, fish, dried fruit

16:27†† no refrigeration at that time for meat, neighbors coordinated their butchering

16:44†† traded meat, didnít pay for anything

16:53†† made own butter, made own wine; the men stomped grapes

17:14†† prohibition

17:31†† brother was treated different

17:41†† another speaker said boys and girls were treated alike

18:31†† one speaker went to business college; wasnít typical

18:48†† not so much into sheep and hotels when they were older

19:09†† most Basque girls married American guys

19:15†† 3 married Americans, 1 French-American and 1 Basque

19:30†† pressure to marry a Basque; sister Mary was supposed to marry Grecian Iribarn(?), kind of arranged, but didnít

20:20†† there was a plan to marry a Basque if they could do it

20:37†† Winnemucca, Martin Hotel

20:49†† Winnemucca Hotel; women and children stayed in the parlor

21:00 † Bush Hotel; had little bowling alley

21:21†† handball court at the Winnemucca Hotel

21:38†† ladies and children didnít go to the bar; stayed in the parlor

22:00†† women did drink a little, blackberry cordial and fancy liqueurs, brandy, anisette, little glasses, lady fingers

22:03†† men and women drank different things

22:26†† pernod for men

22:40†† kids drank cream soda

23:04 men played mus

23:14†† END SIDE B